Plaster demolition work isn’t pretty. Unfortunately, this sometimes becomes too apparent in the finished product.
“I’ve seen some pools that were stripped that looked
like they threw hand grenades in there,” says Kevin Wallace,
president of Underwater Unlimited Inc. in San Diego.
“They just gouged them to death.”
As a pool renovator, it isn’t just the aesthetic of a poor
chip-out that bothers him, but the fact that many remodelers
actually expose the rebar. “The gunite or shotcrete is the
muscle of the pool, and if they’re taking out big chunks, it
could be a problem.”
The key is to remove the plaster without creating too many gouges.
“You don’t want to make it look like a driving range,
where there are divots everywhere,” says Edgar Sanchez, chief
operating officer of Modern Method Gunite Inc., a Houston-based gunite and
“What you have in those cases are varying degrees of
[plaster] thicknesses, so you could end up with different types of
hydration, which will give you a mottled looking finish,” he
Here, experts explain how to make the job as smooth as possible,
while taking out the minimum amount of shotcrete or gunite, whether
performing a full or partial chip-out.
Part of the way
Crews using a bond coat must perform a partial chip-out.
It’s important to remove the plaster immediately under the
tile line and around fittings. This allows the plaster or exposed
aggregate to be gradually feathered in and wrapped around
penetrations, so that they are at the same elevation and prevent
leakage or water migration behind the tile.
To chip around the tile, professionals saw cut at least once
immediately underneath to allow the material to come off cleanly.
This causes the least damage to the tile. Some just cut immediately
under the tile, at the joint. Others add a second saw cut, running
parallel anywhere from 3 to 12 inches below. Then they knock out
the material between the two saw cuts.
“When you make two cuts and hit it with the jackhammer, it
comes out in a small section,” Sanchez says.
“It’s more of a controlled area that you’re
taking off. That whole piece comes off. After that, I can get a lot
more aggressive for the next few inches down.” Some use an
angle grinder to make the cuts while others uses hand grinders with
a 4-inch diamond blade.
Skipping this step can damage the tile over time. “There are
guys who won’t undercut, won’t chip, and they just roll
the new finish into the existing tile,” says Dave Schilli,
president of St. Louis-based Schilli
Plastering Co. Inc. “That runs into a potential problem
with water getting down behind the new finish because you’re
not really sealing off the top of that new finish. You’re
basically exposing it to water penetration.”
When doing this, only cut about as deep as the tile. “My guys
know the tile is only 3/8-inch thick, so that’s all
they’re going down,” Schilli says. “They’re
not cutting any deeper than they have to.”
How far to cut beneath the tile depends partly on what type of
finish is being used. Plaster and finer exposed aggregates only
need to be applied about 3/8-inch thick, so it’s fine to chip
out less of the existing plaster underneath the tile. However, when
dealing with a pebble finish or other material that must be applied
more thickly, a greater amount of space should be opened up
underneath the tile. This gives plasterers more room to gradually
feather in the material until it sits flush with the tile
Crews use a similar technique around the fittings, placing a cut
approximately 6 inches outside the fittings and then removing the
finish material. For floor returns or in-floor cleaning heads, some
professionals prefer to cut approximately 12 inches.
Next, crews must check for areas where debonding, commonly called
delamination, has occurred. These are nicknamed
“hollows.” To find them, drag a chain or rod, such as a
piece of rebar, across the pool and listen for a different sound.
“It’s scratch, scratch, scratch — just like
you’d imagine from dragging a chain on the floor — and
then you hit a hollow area and it sounds like you’re tapping
a bucket,” says Shawn Still, general manager of Olympic Pool
Plastering in Norcross, Ga. “It creates a very hollow
resonation, and that’s the separation between the top layer
of plaster and the underlying substrate.” When doing this,
workers can run the chain or rod in a “V” pattern
across the whole pool.
It’s important to check for hollows so the new material can
become fused to the shell. It makes no sense to plaster over old
material that has detached. “If it’s hollow, it
doesn’t matter if you apply a bond coat because you’re
really not bonding anything,” Sanchez says.
On an average pool, approximately 10 percent of the surface will be
debonded, or hollow, Still says. If it’s more, companies may
opt to perform a full chip-out. Some will do this if more than 25
percent of the surface has delaminated, while others will hold off
unless hollows make up 40 percent of the pool.
The full chip-out
There are other times when even those who prefer the bond-coat
method will move to a full chip-out. If it becomes apparent that
there are multiple layers of plaster in the pool, Sanchez will
remove everything. “You want to go ahead and chip off the top
two layers so you come back with one,” he says.
Another veteran, Jay Eaton, president of Cal Plastering
in Phoenix, will perform a full chip-out if the pool has an
in-floor cleaner, since they would have to do so much cutting and
chipping around the fittings anyway. He also will choose this
option in the case of a major renovation rather than a simple
Whether performing a complete or partial chip-out, certain
techniques will help crews remove the plaster while leaving as much
shotcrete or gunite intact as possible.
The most frequently made mistake is rushing the job, experts say.
After all, not only is it more profitable to get out and on to the
next job, but the work is terribly hard, leaving some to want to
get it finished.
“When you consider that an average pool uses about six
batches of material, and a batch weighs 1,000 pounds, that’s
three tons of aggregate and cement,” Still says. “When
you’ve got a full chip-out, that means, by hand, you’re
chipping up the plaster into chunks, scooping it up into 5-gallon
buckets, and carrying every bit of it out by hand. It is brutal
However, rushing through can lead to removal of too much material.
In an effort to speed things along, some will use stronger
jackhammers than are necessary, and inadvertently cut into the
shell. “We use a 60-pound [pneumatic] hammer, and that will
do less damage,” Eaton says. “We only use the 90-pound
jackhammers when we’re doing heavier-duty work like breaking
up concrete decks.”
Still’s crews, who use electric jackhammers, will chip with
30-pound models at most. “It takes a little bit longer but it
puts a lot less stress on the substrate,” he says.
Crews also should work with a flat chisel rather than a pointed
one, although it’s slower. This reduces the number of pocks
pounded into the shell and helps control the amount of material
that’s removed. “A lot of guys who we run into use a
pointed chisel to expedite the process, and it really does a lot
more damage than just the flat chisel,” says Peter Langevin,
CEO of Simply Pools in Fountain Valley, Calif. “The
flat chisel, it’s kind of like shaving — you can run a
flat chisel along the wall more effectively and just kind of take
off what you need. Somebody who would use a point, when they hit it
on the wall, it kind of splatters in all directions.”
Workers can use wider chisels — 6- to 7-inches — on the
floor, and go with a smaller held-held gun for the walls, steps and
benches to protect the tile and fittings.
Optimally, the flat chisels should be held at an angle of
approximately 45 to 60 degrees to chip slightly sideways.
“Every time you go straight down you’re creating a
divot,” Sanchez says.
Floor work can be done with the chisel held at less of an
Another key to removing the material efficiently with minimal
damage is to frequently sharpen the tools. This makes it easier to
strip the existing finish, and creates less damage underneath.
“You want to keep your points and chisels sharp and have a
lot of pressure on them, so they can work quickly and don’t
do any more damage to the surface than they have to,” Eaton
It’s difficult to say how often a tool should be sharpened,
because some finishing materials are harder than others. However,
all points and chisels should be sharpened before each job. When
removing harder surfaces such as pebble, crews will need to sharpen
more often. Once the pool has been chipped out, some crews like to
acid wash the area in order to remove any remaining residue. But
this should be avoided, Sanchez says. “They’re
literally taking off the top layer of cement and making that gunite
kind of sandy, which inhibits the ability of the plaster to bond to
it,” he explains. TIPS
1. If the pool or spa has more than one layer of plaster, consider
a complete chip-out to ensure a better bond. This also applies when
a large amount of the finish has debonded.
2. Use a flat chisel rather than a pointed end, holding it at an
angle. This helps control the plaster removal and minimizes gouging
of shotcrete or gunite.
3. When chipping around tile, tape over it to protect it from the
jackhammer. Also use lighter, less powerful equipment to ensure it
doesn’t shatter the tile.
4. Sharpen the tools as often as necessary — at least once
per job for plaster and a few times when stripping a harder
material such as pebble.